Neighbors fire out concerns at potential new Damen Ave. event space operators
Matt Edgar (r) explains proposed plans while Joe Barker (l) and Dylan Hyde Castle (c) listen
A crowd fired out concerns about a proposed PPA (Public Place of Amusement) license for the ground level corner space of 1714 N. Damen, during 32nd Ward Alderman Scott Waguespack's public meeting in the proposed space, Monday evening.
The space at the southwest corner of St. Paul and Damen Avenues was formerly the home of Jacobs' Marc by Marc Jacobs, opened in 2008 and closed in 2015. Built in the mid-1910s for manufacturing, the three-story building has a fitness center on the second floor and educational business on the third floor.
John Krenger, building owner since 1985, is taking the initiative of turning the under 4,000 square foot area into an event space. This does not include the ground floor section on the south side of the building, the home for BCBG Maxazria until 2015. According to Krenger on Tuesday, it will continue to be used for pop-ups and is not part of the proposed PPA license.
In a C1 zone, by-right, taverns and liquor stores are permitted. However, Krenger, who is not asking for a liquor license, went to Waugespack offering to have a Plan of Operation for the proposed event space usage, which requires a PPA license.
That Operations document will be attached to the PPA. Failure to adhere to the items in the Plan can cause the PPA license to be revoked. The license is granted by the Department of Business Affairs and Consumer Protection (DBACP).
The community's participation with the Alderman's office provides a way to have restrictions for the space usage. Restrictions examples could be that event hours be limited to midnight on Monday through Saturday and 1 a.m. on Sunday; trash must be picked up for a two-block area along St. Paul; security guards will have "security" on the backs of their outer garment.
In the Plan of Operation draft* for the high-ceilinged, glass-fronted space, potential uses are: "Private parties, weddings, cultural events or other organized functions…arranged by invitation or reservation only for a defined number of persons and not open to the general public." These fall under the Chicago Public Place of Amusement Ordinance (4-156-300 et seq).
Key issues brought up at the meeting by the community include noise, loitering, liter, garbage, smoking, parking, lines of people on the sidewalk as well as loading and unloading.
Both Krenger and Elizabeth Gomez, Waguespack's Director of Business Assistance and Community Outreach, expressed that it is possible to address the concerns.
"We need to have more people on the street," says Gerhard Zinserling whose architectural firm and home are in the area. He points out that having more traffic of people will bring more business to the area. "It takes thinking outside the box to make that happen," he says, explaining that more bars are not the answer but this usage may be.
Having known Krenger for three decades, Zinserling believes that he is totally trustworthy to have the PPA license.
Another neighbor is skeptical, saying that he thinks that this is another way of getting a liquor license.
Having had a pop-up store in the building for a year, Sararose Krenger, John's daughter, said that business to business partnering and using local businesses as resources can help not only the businesses but also the residents. She encourages everyone to work and shop locally.
To benefit the neighborhood, operations representatives offered up the idea of using the space for an indoor winter farmers market and other local events such as a polling place. A few neighbors said that they did not feel that they had given enough thought to what they could do for the neighborhood.
With ground floor commercial space vacant for two years, Krenger must have the space generating revenue to keep the building viable for his investment. He stressed that it is vital to him to have a usage that works for his tenants, neighbors and himself and welcomes people to call him directly if they have issues with his building.
The next step is that residents are encouraged to send suggestions for issues to be covered in the Plan .
When residential and commercial usages are mixed, it is not unusual to have concerns on both sides. Successful co-habitation generally results with upfront planning and ongoing communications.
Business Structure and Meeting Details
The business structure for the space usage is being headed by Prery. It is owned by Krenger.
Serving as the managing agent for Prery, A.I.S. (Audio Integration Services) is a Chicago based Audio-Visual installation company. Matt Edgar is A.I.S's CEO and has Dylan Hyde Castle on his team. Black Label Security will be a sub-contractor under A.I.S., providing the security for A.I.S. in this endeavor. It is owned by Joe Barker.
At the Monday night meeting, Edgar, Hyde Castle and Barker spoke about the plan for the space explaining what they would not be doing as well as what they would be doing, if approved.
Highlights of the Will-Not Do list are:
- hiring promoters to bring in performers for concerts/show…experience with bars and night clubs, such as the Green Dolphin, have made that type of operation unacceptable to many residents
- operating as a night club
- applying for a City of Chicago Late Hour Liquor License
- operating between 2 and 7 a.m. Monday thru Saturday and 3 to 11 a.m. on Sunday
On the Will-Do list:
- work with the event leasee's production staff to abide by all rules and regulations for the space
- have leasee staff hire licensed certified food and beverage catering companies which also carry their own insurance
- maintain video surveillance currently totaling 15 cameras, having tapes available to the Chicago Police Department
- have security personnel inside and outside monitoring behavior and noise levels
Once the final Plan of Operation is created and submitted, registered voters within 250 feet of the business will be notified by DBACP.
Who are the business people
Interested in the track record of all partnership members, residents asked about the experience of Edgar and Barker and how they will address the neighbors' concerns.
In addition to built-in security, Barker explained that his firm covers security for approximately 10 businesses each week, including some in West Town establishments--Debonair Social Club, Estelle's and a new popup. In the business for about 10 years, he has 30 trained and available staff members.
"What we are looking for here is safety," Barker said. With patrons invited, the kind of crowd is known before the event and staffing can be matched with that type of crowd. He pointed out that more hands on staff, for example, will be used when more children are included.
For events, staff will walk the perimeter and there will be set exit doors and smoking areas.
Several condo owners in the four-building, 124-unit complex are particularly concerned about noise, parking, smoking, lines of people, trash as well as loading and unloading.
According to Edgar and Krenger, they will use measuring devices for noise to insure that levels are within regulations. They also said that they want a relationship with neighbors so that any issues that may arise can be worked out amicably. For starters, they will be adding sound abatement material to the ceiling and include long curtains, according to Edgar.
Whereas the capacity of the site is listed as 500, the actual number of people that would be on site would be substantially less than that. Capacity is derived by how many people could fill the space, lined up shoulder to shoulder.
In reality, Hyde Castle pointed out that tables and chairs alone reduce people space to two to three hundred.
Regarding lines of people on the sidewalk as well as loading and unloading, the condo dwellers used a pop-up event with IKEA as an example of unwelcome activity. Krenger explained that that was his first popup and that he learned a lot about what not to do.
Parking was one of the more discussed topics. As explained by Paul Sajovec, Alderman Waguespack's Chief of Staff, a Parking Determination Letter from the Department of Business Affairs and Consumer Protection will state how many parking spaces will be required for the space.
Sajovec also pointed out that the space cannot open until the parking requirement is fulfilled. It is predicated that most event attendees will arrive by ride share or public transportation.
*PLAN OF OPERATION
A. Private parties, weddings, cultural events or other organized functions (e.g., corporate events, charitable functions, political fundraisers, etc.) arranged by invitation or reservation only for a defined number of persons and not open to the general public;